По итогам прошедшей ночи

[puffinus]

Не то чтобы я имел какие-то основания для симпатий к мистеру Обаме. Но сейчас у него есть одно громадное достоинство, которое затмевает все его недостатки. Достоинство это состоит в том, что он не Ромни.

Ведь что мы имеем на данный момент? Реакция наступает по всем фронтам, зима близко. И тут в президенты США ВНЕЗАПНО баллотируется такой гнидогадоид, на фоне которого даже Рейган и оба Буша выглядят левыми.

Он ведь мог победить, вполне мог. И это была бы не просто перемена хозяина в Белом доме - это был бы качественный рывок в том направлении, которое задали в своё время Тэтчер и вышеупомянутый Рейган. И одновременно крах любого протеста против этой линии - тех же оккупаев, например.

Но американцы - нация в целом консервативная - сказали: "Спасибо, нет". Слабенький повод для оптимизма, но по нынешним временам нужно радоваться и такому.

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[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

>>Мормон - это диагноз

Диагноз чего? Мормоны как раз таки известны своей умеренностью в вопросах политики.

При чем тут разговоры про изнасилования?

Romney, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee told National Review Online this morning that Akin's comments on rape are also "inexcusable and, frankly, wrong."

"What he said is entirely without merit and he should correct it," the GOP presidential nominee is quoted as saying.

Я о том и говорю, что Ромни, в отличие от многих своих однопартийцев, вполне умеренный кандидат был.

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

>>Суровых делюзий

Это не Ромни, а другой кандидат в президенты из мормонов, но всё же:

"I believe in God. I'm a good Christian. I'm very proud of my Mormon heritage. I am Mormon.

Although still Mormon, Huntsman has said that he and his wife draw from an array of sources for inspiration, stating: "Today, there are 13 million Mormons. It's a very diverse and heterogeneous cross-section of people. And you're going to find a lot of different attitudes and a lot of different opinions in that 13 million. I was raised a Mormon, Mary Kaye was raised Episcopalian, our kids have gone to Catholic school, I went to a Lutheran school growing up in Los Angeles. So you kind of bind all this together." [128]

Huntsman rejects the notion that faith and evolution are mutually exclusive. In 2011, in response to a statement by Rick Perry that global warming was unproven and that evolution remains only a theory, Huntsman tweeted, "To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."[129] He said, "The minute that the Republican Party becomes the party – the anti-science party, we have a huge problem. We lose a whole lot of people who would otherwise allow us to win the election in 2012."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr.#Religious_views

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

Mr. Romney, a devout Mormon, surprised some observers when he was not among those Republican candidates who raised their hands last week when asked at the Republican presidential debate if they did not believe in evolution. (Senator Sam Brownback, former Gov. Mike Huckabee and Representative Tom Tancredo said they did not.)

“I believe that God designed the universe and created the universe,” Mr. Romney said in an interview this week. “And I believe evolution is most likely the process he used to create the human body.”


While governor of Massachusetts, Mr. Romney opposed the teaching of intelligent design in science classes.

“In my opinion, the science class is where to teach evolution, or if there are other scientific thoughts that need to be discussed,” he said. “If we’re going to talk about more philosophical matters, like why it was created, and was there an intelligent designer behind it, that’s for the religion class or philosophy class or social studies class.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/11/romney-elaborates-on-evolution/


Mitt Romney:

I am not a scientist myself, but my best assessment of the data is that the world is getting warmer, that human activity contributes to that warming, and that policymakers should therefore consider the risk of negative consequences.

http://www.sciencedebate.org/debate12/

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

По-видимому это как-то связано с отсутствием партийной дисциплины.

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

"изнасилование - дар божий" и "изнасиловали - сама виновата"

Вообще-то "респы" не говорили ни того, ни другого.

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

Не, конечно разница между ребенком и изнасилованием не всем очевидна.

Никогда бы не подумал, что мне в этой жизни придется защищать Ромни и Мoрдока, а вот поди-ж ты...

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

Республиканцы выступают за запрет генетики и киберентики.

Действительно, зачем их защищать?

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

запрет на госфинансирование исследований с эмбриональными стволовыми клетками
запрет на исследования с эмбриональными стволовыми клетками
запрет на генетику и кибернетику

гиперболы тем и хороши, что освобождают от необходимости хоть немного думать

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

Хорошая траектория дискуссии: от "гнидогадоида" и "диагноза" до "кандидата, не по максимуму прогрессивного".

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

Я плохо понимаю, чем Ромни хуже Буша.

President Bush invigorated proponents of teaching alternatives to evolution in public schools with remarks saying that schoolchildren should be taught about "intelligent design," a view of creation that challenges established scientific thinking and promotes the idea that an unseen force is behind the development of humanity.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201686.html


Upon arriving in office in 2001, President Bush withdrew United States support of the then-pending Kyoto Protocol, a United Nations Convention seeking to impose mandatory targets for reducing "greenhouse gas" emissions. Bush stated that human activity had not been proven to be the cause and cited concerns about the treaty's impact on the U.S. economy and pointed out that China and India had not signed on.

In 2002, the Bush Administration's Environmental Protection Agency issued a Climate Action Report concluding that the climate changes observed over several decades "are likely mostly due to human activities, but we cannot rule out that some significant part of these changes is also a reflection of natural variability".[25] While the EPA report was initially hailed by some environmentalists critical of the Bush administration as a "180-degree turn on the science" reversing "everything the president has said about global warming since he took office," within days President Bush dismissed the report as being "put out by the bureaucracy," fired his Republican appointee who wrote it and reaffirmed his opposition to the Kyoto Protocol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration#Global_warming

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

за какую войну? за ту же за которую был Обама?

" in one of the most difficult decisions that I’ve made as President, I ordered an additional 30,000 American troops into Afghanistan."
http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Romney&vs=Obama&on=Afghanistan

почему Обама плевал на Израиль?

"you will not see, under my presidency, any slackening in commitment to Israel's security."
http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Obama/Israel.php

In a Monday interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Israeli Minister of Defense Ehud Barak praised President Barack Obama for doing “more than anything that I can remember in the past” in regards to Israeli security.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/israeli-defense-minister-praises-obama-doing-more-for-israeli-security-than-previous-presidents/

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

Я забыл еще одну промежуточную стадию - запрет на уровне штатов.


Proposition 71 of 2004 (or the California Stem Cell Research and Cures Act) is a law enacted by California voters to support stem cell research in the state. It was proposed by means of the initiative process and approved in the 2004 state elections on November 2. The Act amended both the Constitution of California and the Health and Safety Code.

The Act makes conducting stem cell research a state constitutional right. It authorizes the sale of general obligation bonds to allocate three billion dollars over a period of ten years to stem cell research and research facilities. Although the funds could be used to finance all kinds of stem cell research, it gives priority to human embryonic stem cell research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_71_%282004%29

Это при республиканском президенте и при республиканском губернаторе было, если что.

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

А что, кстати, символизирует этот лиловый лабиринт у многих юзеров по ссылке?

"Наш уровень интеллекта"?

[rsokolov.livejournal.com]

давно уже ничего о нем не слышал
как-то пропал из поля зрения и больше не появлялся

а причем тут лиловый лабиринт?